"Share a time when you believe God gave you an 'opportunity for
immortality.' What did you do with it? Did you seize the moment for
Him...or back away? How did your decision make you feel? What were the
results? What effect do you believe this experience will have on your
behavior the next time you are given such an opportunity?"
Several months after my first book came out, I found myself in prayer one
night. Since I was a first-time, unknown author, my Harvest House publicist
told me that I should not expect any national attention would be paid to my
book. Maybe, if it proved to be reasonably successful, she said, they would
start noticing my work after my third or fourth book-- but not with my first.
With 53,000 new books each year competing with one another, the big talk
shows were looking for big names to help them reach big audiences.
But the book I had written was a call to unhappy married couples not to give
up on each other so quickly. With all my heart, I felt it was a message
straight from the heart of God to our nation. So in spite of my publicist's
words of experience, I made up a prayer list of every national talk show
listed in our local paper's television section. Every day I would pray
through the list and ask God, if it was His will, to put me on one or more of
those shows and use me in some small way, at least to help stem the raging
divorce epidemic that was threatening to dismantle the stability of the
family, which is the very foundation of our country.
On this particular night, as I prayed through the talk shows one-by-one, I
got to the name, "Sally Jessy Raphael." I had never watched Sally's show. I
wasn't even sure I was pronouncing her last name correctly. But for some
reason, I parked there. "Lord," I prayed, "You're all-powerful. You can do
anything. For example, You could put me on this Sally Jessy Raphael talk
show in a heartbeat, if You really wanted to."
At that moment, something happened inside me. I went from "normal" prayer to
what I can only describe as an inner "burst" of faith. Suddenly, I was
overwhelmed with a sense of the absolute power of God to do anything He chose
to do. Coupled with the righteousness of my cause in behalf of marriages and
a rock-solid certain sense that this was in His perfect will, I concluded
with fiery passion: "So that's what I'm asking you to do, LORD. If it's
your will to put me on the Sally Jessy Raphael show, then move heaven and
earth, do whatever You have to do...but DO it!" When I finished, I was
trembling, my heart was pounding, my breaths were coming deep and fast.
Next morning, I was leading an administrative staff meeting in our church
conference room. One of our secretaries poked her head in and said, "There's
a call for you in your office."
I replied, "Do you mind taking a message and telling them I'll call back?" I
said.
"It's your publicist," she replied. "She says it's urgent."
Remembering my prayer from the night before, I felt the color drain from my
face. There was a prickling sensation all over my body. "I'll take it," I
said, excusing myself.
My office was only a few steps away, but even as I walked to the phone, I
told myself to calm down. This wasn't necessarily related to my prayer the
night before. It was probably something else entirely.
"Are you sitting down?" were the first words out my publicist's mouth.
I sat down. "Yes," I said.
"A producer with a major talk show just contacted me this morning about the
possibility of your appearing on their program," she told me.
Immediately I thought to myself, Sally Jessy Raphael? What are the odds of
it being Sally Jessy Raphael? Maybe it's another show; that would be
wonderful. It doesn't matter, after all. But dear God, if this is...
"Which program?" I managed.
"Sally Jessy Raphael," she replied.
It was a few moments before I could speak. "O God," I said finally -- not
blasphemously, but with utter reverence. "Just last night I prayed for Him
to do this and now you're telling me..."
"Well, apparently He's the One who did it," she said. "That's the only
explanation I can give. But it's not a done deal. They still want to talk
with you by telephone, to decide if you can hold your own on national
television, since they've never heard of you before. I've sent them a copy
of your book. The rest is up to you."
No, I thought, the rest is up to God. If He's taken me this far, He's not
about to drop me now.
After a series of telephone interviews with several producers, the decision
was made. Sally wanted me to be her guest on a Sweeps Week show, which they
were taping before a crowd of 4,000 at Sea World, in San Diego, California.
This was our big break.
The Sally Show flew my wife Judy and me out to San Diego, put us up in a
beautiful hotel, chauffeured us to Sea World in a long limousine. Needless
to say, I was excited. Since mine was a pro-marriage book, I assumed Sally
wanted to use her influence in a positive way, to help strengthen the
marriages of America.
I was wrong. About an hour before the taping, the producer chased everyone
out of the room, sat cross-legged on the floor in front of me and informed me
that they were also going to have guests on the show who would try to refute
everything I had planned to say. "We're not going to tell them you're a
pastor," she informed me. "We're just going to mention that you have a Ph.D.
in Psychology. Can you live with that?"
I told her that was all right, adding that I wouldn't change my message,
regardless.
"Do you really mean that?" she asked. "Are you willing to stick to your guns
no matter what? I mean, you believe all this stuff you wrote in your book,
don't you?" she demanded.
"Yes, I do," I replied.
"Can you defend it without making any Biblical references?" she asked.
"Because if you start quoting Scripture, we're dead. There's no defense
anyone can make to a belief system and our whole show will collapse. What we
want to know is, do you think this stuff makes sense? Is your position
logically defensible, without resorting to Bible-waving?"
"Absolutely," I told her.
"Well, those are the ground rules," she said. "Don't use a single chapter
and verse reference...or we'll have to go another direction." She made it
clear that if I resorted to quoting the Bible to support my call to marital
faithfulness, they'd jerk me off the stage during the next commercial break
and finish the show without me, sticking solely with their divorce-on-demand
guests.
I agreed to her terms for two reasons. First, truth is still truth, whether
you give the Bible reference or not. "You shall know the truth," said Jesus,
"and the truth will make you free." He didn't say, "You shall know the Bible
reference, and the Bible reference will make you free."
The other reason I agreed was that I had absolute confidence in the obvious
wisdom of the Word of God. Over the years, I have observed time and again
that God's way simply makes the most sense. Thinking of the dietary test the
Bible's Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego and Daniel were put through as captives
in a foreign land (Daniel 1:5-20), I was confident that God's way would win
out in this nationally-aired debate.
Minutes before the show started, the producer excused herself for a moment
and I was left alone in the room. Suddenly, I wanted a cup of coffee. I
decided to see if I could find a coffee pot somewhere out in the hall. I
stepped out of the room, wandering around in search of that cup of
coffee...and came upon a television monitor that showed the 4,000-strong
crowd of people seated in the outdoor amphitheater. A man I had never seen
before was pacing up and down in front of the crowd with a microphone,
yelling at the audience.
Curious, I stopped to hear what he was saying. "In a few minutes," he said,
we're going to bring out a man who believes that you should NEVER divorce
your spouse, under any circumstances! Can you believe that?"
"Noooooo!" the crowd shouted back.
"Not only that," he continued," he believes that even if your husband is
BEATING you and SEXUALLY ABUSING YOUR CHILDREN, you should just stay with him
and take it!"
The crowd erupted with shouts of anger and outrage.
"So when he comes out here," the man shouted to them, "I want you to let this
man and Sally and the WHOLE WORLD know what you think of him!"
The crowd exploded with a loud roar, letting him know they would.
I stood there, stunned. So that was it. This wasn't about helping marriages
make it. It wasn't even about a fair debate. It was about two things:
Sally's divorce agenda and high television ratings. They wanted a
knock-down, drag-out fight between me and whomever they were going to bring
out on stage to oppose me. And to make sure Sally's divorce agenda came out
on top, they rigged the audience response by lying to the crowd about my
position on divorce.
Again and again in the pre-interviews they conducted with me, they had
quizzed me down about the circumstances under which I believed divorce was
permissable - positions I had clearly also explained in my book - that there
WERE Biblical bases for divorce - adultery (Matthew 19:9) and desertion by an
unbelieving spouse (1 Corinthians 7:15-16). Furthermore, I made it clear in
my book that if there was any physical abuse of any kind, the spouse had
every right to get away and insist that his/her mate get help.
They knew I believed these things - knew it well - but it didn't suit their
purposes. They didn't want a reasonable defense of marriage-saving on their
show. They wanted a monster whose position on divorce was hardhearted and
absurd. So they lied to the crowd, in order to create one.
I slowly walked back to the room they had put me in, intending for me to stay
there like a good boy, until they brought me out, totally unsuspecting, to
feed me to the lions. They had counted on my being totally unprepared for
the crowd's hostility, thus hoping their venomous responses would rattle me
and cause me to crumble under the pressure, ensuring a win for Sally's
agenda. Failing that, perhaps they were hoping that in uncomprehending
frustration, I would lash out, retaliating in anger, thus discrediting the
message I believed God wanted me to convey to hurting married couples - one
of hope, restoration and reconciliation.
But because I had suddenly had a desire for a cup of coffee during the only
time there was no one in the room to get it for me -- something I attribute
to the direct intervention of God -- I was now aware of what I was about to
face. The trap had been baited and set. Unless I turned tail and ran,
nothing could change the fact that I was about to step into what was waiting
for me on that stage. But thanks to God, at least I was now prepared for
the bite of their trap's vicious teeth.
As the emotional impact of what was about to take place swept over me, I
shook my head at how rapidly my expectations of this "big break" in my
writing career had changed. Far from wanting to help the sales of my book,
they intended to bury my book, its message and me on the spot, and to create
a ratings-coup spectacle out of the massacre, to boot.
Alone in the room, I spent the last moments in prayer before they called me
out, asking God for His wisdom and His strength. How fitting, I thought. My
Godly parents had named me "Stephen," after the first Christian martyr, whom
an angry mob had stoned to death. I was about to go before an angry mob of
my own -- a mob whipped up into such a frenzy that they could hardly wait to
hurl their verbal brickbats my way.
"Even though I'm not allowed to mention your Name or Your Word," I begged
God, "please help the television audience to see You in me. Even though the
millions who are watching by television will have no idea why this crowd is
so angry at me, please help them to hear and absorb the powerful truths of
Your Word. LORD, Your Word is sharper than any double-edged sword. Cut
through all the lies and send Your message straight to people's hearts."
Suddenly, the peace of God filled me to overflowing. It was going to be all
right. None of this was a surprise to God. This was not some unexpected
development. Satan had not pulled a fast one on God. Sally and/or her
producers thought they were setting me up for failure...but in reality, God
was setting me up with an exquisite opportunity to proclaim love, rather than
hatred, to proclaim the truth that many of the marriages that were ending in
divorce could not only be saved, but could become truly happy, fulfilling and
rewarding -- if only those involved would not give up prematurely.
Then the door opened. It was time.
They led me down the hall and toward the stage, where they showed me to my
seat. As the familiar Sally theme music kicked in and the crowd applauded
the beginning of the show, an inexpressible joy filled me from head to foot.
This, I thought to myself, was exactly what I'd been put on this earth to do.
There was no fear -- only an overwhelming gratitude that I was about to be
given the opportunity to speak for God.
When the show started, they brought out my debate opponent -- a fiercely
combative woman who, as a divorce counselor for hire, would help her female
clients get the maximum financial settlement possible from the husband they
were divorcing. I don't think I've ever seen such a bitter, incensed,
outraged woman. I found myself wondering what lies about me they had told
HER. She wasted no time tearing into me, saying she was appalled at my
beliefs.
The crowd was overwhelmingly on her side. Every time I spoke, they attempted
to drown me out, screaming threats and obscenities. Some of the people in
the audience stood up and made threatening, obscene physical gestures while I
endeavored to make my points.
My wife Judy was sitting in the crowd, seeing and hearing all of this.
Afterwards, on the flight back, she told me how everyone around her was full
of venom toward me, shouting what they would do to me, if they could get
their hands on me.
"Well, you defended me, right?" I asked her. "I mean, you told them I was
your husband and that I wasn't at all the person they had portrayed me to
be...didn't you?"
"Are you kidding?" she said, laughing. "I wasn't about to let them know that
I even knew you! Do you think I wanted them turning all that anger on me?
There's no telling what they would have done to me!"
After the show, as we were headed for the limousine, I caught sight of the
producer who had put the whole thing together. "Well," I asked, "did you get
the get the knock-down, drag-out Sweeps Week show you wanted?"
Her eyes got big, then she looked at me strangely, no doubt trying to gauge
my reaction to what they had just done to me. Finally she stammered,
"Oh....yes, yes, we did get...a really, uh...a really - actually, the show
was hot."
"Hot," I echoed.
"Yes," she replied. "Really hot."
"Good," I said, smiling. "I'm glad you got what you wanted." And I meant it.
What was the result? We won't fully know 'til heaven, of course. But I do
know that the phone at our church began ringing with calls from all over the
nation. People had called television stations and bookstores to get the name
of my publisher, who told them how to get in touch with me at the church.
Person after person said, "I KNEW it! I just KNEW you were a Christian! The
Spirit of God was all over you! Besides, everything you said was straight
from the Bible. And the way you never let them rattle you -- no matter what
they yelled, you just kept on smiling and never replied in kind." An
avalanche of mail said much the same thing.
"What was wrong with that crowd?" people who watched the program asked me
over and over again. "Your answers were so loving and made such good sense
-- but for some reason, it was like the people in the audience had tuned you
out -- they weren't listening to your answers at all!"
Isn't that amazing? The Sally strategy succeeded in achieving a hot Sweeps
Week show. But it failed in discrediting the message God had given me -- not
because of my brilliance...but because of the direct intervention and favor
of God. Instead of allowing the audience's reaction against me to sway the
far larger national television audience, it backfired. They were SO
disrespectful toward me that it created an unexpected backlash of support for
the guy who was under fire.
As he does so often, Satan overplayed his hand. He laid a trap for me, but
all the while, what was really happening was that God was laying a trap for
him. God let them put me in the lion's den, but just as He did for Daniel
(although I'm unworthy to be mentioned in the same sentence with that great
saint), God kept the lions from devouring me.
I walked away humbled, stunned that God would stoop to use the likes of me to
accomplish His purposes. It should have been a horrible, painful experience
for me to be treated like that by 4,000 people on national television. But
it wasn't. Not at all.
For the entire duration of the show, God placed me in a warm cocoon of love,
peace and joy unlike anything I had ever experienced. It was as though the
screams, taunts and threats they hurled toward me reached as far as the
platform, only to hit an invisible shield of protection that God had placed
all about me, causing their invective to bounce off without ever touching me
and fall harmlessly to the stage.
When the hour-long special came to an end, God had so energized me and filled
me with His Spirit that I was actually disappointed that it was over. There
were so many more things I desperately wanted to say, to help people
understand the healing power of God's love, even in situations that appear
totally hopeless.
When Judy and I returned to Evansville and told our friends and family what
had happened (the taped show had not yet aired), they were horrified. "This
could destroy your book's ministry," they told us. And so it could have.
But God had other plans. After the show aired, major bookstore chains began
carrying my book, as a direct result of the controversy. Coupled with the
help of several hundred other radio and television interviews, including an
appearance with Dr. Laura Schlesinger on Oprah (Dr. Laura and I were on the
same side, on that show!), God caused my book to become a bestseller.
I don't share this with you as a testament to my courage or faithfulness.
All I had planned to do was go on a talk show to promote my book. Instead, I
share it in hopes that it will be an encouragement to you -- that even when
you're "trapped" into standing for God...even when the environment is
overwhelmingly hostile, God hasn't brought you to that moment to let you
down. Instead, He will go through it with you - and transform it into His
glory...for your benefit and for the benefit of potentially countless others.
Gratefully,
Steve
Stephen Schwambach
ZChurch Pastor
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